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Colin K Bell
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Cool down Reply with quote

Just wondering what the lifters do for a cool-down at the end of a training workout?
I to be honest havent be doing one. I only realised when the physio asked me if I was doing one and she wasnt too amused with my silence!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is why I get injured so much! My cool down consists of walking outside.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally dont do a cool down as I dont see a point to it. I think the cool down area is one where some sciencetists like me Smile disagree with physios on this topic. I appreciate that most people would hold the view that do a cool down to possilby remove the blood from the legs get the contraction of the blood vessels via muscle contraction to pump the blood around the body and so help the heart out (ease stress).

Does it really benefit the muscles?

I must say though that for people who have not exercised before and are over weight then yes i would reccomend a cool down but for weightlifters I stuggle to find a compelling argument to make me do a cool down. Id be interested to hear colin the reasons given by your physio to do a cool down.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: cool down Reply with quote

we always cooled down by stretching , if thats what you define it as , when i ignore this i wake up sore the next day so there seems to be something to that ?
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Colin K Bell
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter- the physio said the cool down will help prevent injuries, but didnt detail why. The poor girl had just finished testing my injured left hand,right hand,right wrist,right knee and right ankle!
Pete- I asked her about our shoes. She agrees with you that the slope would not cause knee pain. But she stressed we had better be stretching the achilles tendon as it can shorten with heeled shoes over time. She knew what the olympic lifts were which surprised me.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow colin that sure is a long list of injuries! I wish you well in your rehab Smile

In my opinon and what I can gather from research through some papers I dont think lack of a cool down is causing your injuries although saying that I dont know what is either so im not of much benefit to you there unfortuneately!

Im not surprised that the physio said a cool down would prevent injuries as nearly all physios that I have gone to have said the same however. my background is in sport science and molecular biology of exercise and I in all my time of study could never find really good sciencetific support for a cool down in reducing injuries. So for highly paid professionals to be dispensing such comments as facts is rather annoying as simply the proof isnt there. But hey im a scientist and wont get paid half as much as a physio I guess im just jealous Smile

Hope you will be back lifting soon
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Colin K Bell
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Peter!
My sprained hands caused by me not being able to rack bar in my hands during cleans.
Sprained wrist in April opening a gate in work!!!!! And then upset few months ago when I was chasing a snatch forward and crashed into my power rack! I train alone in a 8x12ft shed.
The ankle is an old sprain when I fell off a step at work(work again) which I ignored and didnt stretch.
The knee problem caused by someone with a vodoo doll of me! Cant think of any better reason.
Peter would you recommend stretching a joint when injured? Thinking of my wrist which causes pain when stretched( physio told me to but I am having doubts)
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Kevin Darcy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn hes onto me...better get rid of that voodoo doll quickly!
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Colin K Bell
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did I do on you Kev? Was it my 152kg clean or the 122kg snatch ? In my dreams!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you work as a stunt man colin? as i think that is the only profession i know which could cause so many injuries Smile

As regards your wrist injury im not an injury treatment specialist so the best advice I can probably give you would be to get a second or even thrid opinon on your wrist if it is not healing properly.

As regards my opinon on stretching a sprain it doesnt really make sense to me as a sprain is caused in the first instance by the connective tissues being stretched in the first place so im not surprised that you are experiencing pain when stretching. If you are having problems with your joints it might not do you any harm to see an osteopath and just get their opinon and contrast that then with the infromation that you have recieved from your physio.

I would be intersted however to hear the rationale given by your physio to do something which is causing you pain.
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Colin K Bell
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,
She didnt give expanatory reasons for stretching. Thanks I will try an osteopath. In work I have to lift ackward things like washing machines etc alone as I work largely with girls(steady-on Kevin!).
I intend to really increase my hand and finger strength from now on. Santa is bringing me a few DVDs on hand strengh and health.
I feel like giving up trying to get flexibility to catch clean properly, but I will persist on. This with stronger hands and wrist should help me from getting consistently injured.
But I cant do anything about Kevin and his vodoo, except to pay someone to put vaseline on his lifting shoes soles!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cool down after training is about 10 minutes of gentle stretching, I dont see much point for Cardio cool down as we do very little aerobicly, but in regards to the streching I find it helps speed up recovery and helps remove some of the lactic build up after training which I would imagin would help reduce the amount of damage done to the muscle and slightly reduce the chance of injury.

Not sure of the science but it is a great help all the same.
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